The International House of Mojo

With elTee on boad, the collective snark is fortified with another strong voice. But soon the streamers will respond in kind, ambushing our hearts with a new participant of their own...

Remi 2:05 PM
Live commentary -- this will likely appear on Mojo, so watch your mouth. ;

jason 2:05 PM
Love the way the troll's bat floats back into his hand.

Remi 2:06 PM
Also, not George Lucas.
2:06
Just looked like him in the VGA version.

elTee 2:06 PM
you can edit me out! jake and marius suck!!

Remi 2:06 PM
There's our headline!

elTee 2:07 PM
I was joking!

elTee 2:07 PM
I like jake and marius!

Remi 2:07 PM
Sure you do. ;

elTee 2:08 PM
I want them to test something in the game but I don't have an account so I can't comment
2:08
I have this belief that if you stand still on the melee island paths instead of walking around, when you encounter a pirate you get the line you need

jason 2:08 PM
I always disagreed with giving Stan's shipyard music in the CD version.

elTee 2:08 PM
rather than trial and error 10 times

jason 2:09 PM
That sounds like a total conspiracy theory -- bring it up.

Remi 2:09 PM
The CD-ROM music there. Oof.

jason 2:09 PM
You don't need an account it's a public chat.

elTee 2:09 PM
I tried to talk and it wouldn't let me post
2:09
it invited me to sign up

jason 2:09 PM
Oh sorry. I was assuming.

elTee 2:10 PM
seriously how can anyone not love this EGA art

zaarin 2:10 PM
I like it more now than I did back then

zaarin 2:11 PM
Back then I thought it was downgraded from the VGA art
2:11
I didn't know the close-ups were different

jason 2:11 PM
Ahh, nice tidbit about failing three times with the troll's riddle.

Remi 2:11 PM
I can appreciate the artistry of the EGA version now.

jason 2:11 PM
@zaarin Same. I started with VGA floppy and quite liked the "realistic" close-ups.
2:12
There's no denying that the originals are more consonant with the surrounding game, though
2:12
I love them both.

elTee 2:12 PM
yeah VGA is not bad by any means

Remi 2:12 PM
It's hard to go back from the Amiga version for me.

jason 2:12 PM
The VGA version gave us LEC employees as the characters!

Remi 2:12 PM
I thought that was the EGA version.

elTee 2:12 PM
oh right, is Elaine Mrs Purcell or something?
2:12
I know the swordmaster was someone

jason 2:12 PM
Yeah, the damned safe combination is the one part of MI1 I have to write stuff down.
2:14
The outsized belligerence of the shopkeeper still makes me happy.

Remi 2:14 PM
Yeah.
2:14
I mean, I always liked MI1 a lot, but this is a good reminder of how solid it really is.

elTee 2:15 PM
whenever I revisit MI1 I'm still surprised how well it holds up

Remi 2:15 PM
I might give the Amiga version a whirl again.
2:15
We're all going to be killed by the virus, so might as well do it one last time.

jason 2:16 PM
They're talking early design documents for MI.

Remi 2:16 PM
Yeah, the less comedic version.

elTee 2:16 PM
smear west?

jason 2:16 PM
One of them should have the ship-to-ship combat arcade sequence that Tim rued the cutting of.

Remi 2:17 PM
Smear West? No clue.

elTee 2:17 PM
I thought that was the name of the playable character in the original design, I may be wrong though
2:17
maybe it's a gynacological product

Remi 2:17 PM
Hank Plank was Tim's name, no?

jason 2:17 PM
I love the "following the shopkeeper" music.

elTee 2:18 PM
that sounds like a porn name

Remi 2:18 PM
That music is awesome.
2:18
Also the most ska-like part of the soundtrack.
2:18
The Stump Joke. Classic.

jason 2:19 PM
I agree with the gist of what they were saying earlier: that this game does a superb job of creating a captivating world while also constantly undermining its reality, with that somehow working.

Remi 2:19 PM
Yep. It's like a covert surrealism to it.

elTee 2:19 PM
I mean the stump joke - I was maybe 7 or 8 when I played this, and I got the joke
2:19
were people REALLY fooled by that?

jason 2:20 PM
Still grateful that the VGA Floppy version retained it.
2:20
Were the woods totally untouched by the VGA conversion?
2:20
Those screens look identical to how I remember them in VGA.

Remi 2:21 PM
I believe so.
2:21
Though not the sign and cement slab.
2:21
Those were definitely textured.

elTee 2:21 PM
I think there was more fidelity to the plants maybe
2:21
I might be totally wrong again

zaarin 2:21 PM
more gradients

Remi 2:22 PM
The national park signs -- those are very American.
2:22
I'm sure most got the point, but not the direct references.

elTee 2:22 PM
that thing should be a monitor
2:23
if this is a theme park, it's just a TV screen in a box

jason 2:23 PM
@elTee Carla the Swordmaster in the VGA close-up was based on Carla Green, who you can see in 6:35 of this video.

elTee 2:24 PM
ah I thought I remembered that

jason 2:25 PM
I do like how this puzzle solution is persistence in the dialog tree.
2:26
Nice touch with the hearts drawn on the dummy sparring partners.

Remi 2:27 PM
I like the smile on it.

jason 2:27 PM
The scary sound effect! From Last Crusade!

Remi 2:27 PM
It sounds a lot better on the Amiga. ;

jason 2:27 PM
I feel like The Machine, like "Prepare to die," is a direct reference to The Princess Bride.

Remi 2:28 PM
Not impossible.
2:28
Now we're getting a little look at Jake's home office.
2:28
Some nice floating shelves in the back.
2:28
Comfortable looking chair.

zaarin 2:29 PM
ATM starting to talk about early versions of games

jason 2:29 PM
Water barrel with the ladle hanging out, on the bottom left.
2:30
I think the business of Guybrush simultaneously being super competent and an idiot, which people are discussing, is partially an artifact of him being an adventure game character.

Remi 2:30 PM
The Big Lebowski comparison I disagree with.

elTee 2:30 PM
he's naive but he gets things done by being underhand

jason 2:31 PM
I haven't seen it in a while -- does Jeff Bridges just stumble through things successfully?
2:31
I think Guybrush is a lot more proactively smart.

Remi 2:31 PM
He's a naive asshole.

elTee 2:31 PM
the dude is just stoned all the time

jason 2:31 PM
He's just also a goofball.

elTee 2:31 PM
he just wants to chill out or have fun
2:31
he deals with problems if they get in the way of that
2:31
it's more walter who fucks things up colossally

jason 2:31 PM
Guybrush talking to the audience -- what other examples are there of that?

Remi 2:32 PM
Pirates walking all over the map.
2:32
They really did make the world feel alive.

jason 2:32 PM
The "guaranteed A+" speech to the player in CMI during a Haggis dialog is excellent.

Remi 2:32 PM
He kind of stopped talking to the player in EMI and TMI, no?

Suddenly, the proceedings kicked up a notch, because this happened:

jason 2:32 PM
Dom just called in!

Remi 2:33 PM
Celebrity studded!

elTee 2:33 PM
haha
2:34
marek is in the chat btw if you still want to find out what that acronym was

Remi 2:34 PM
Marek tossing in a #monkey-island reference.

Bennyboy 2:35 PM
I've just got back...when did Dominic Armarto turn up?

zaarin 2:35 PM
2 mins ago

Remi 2:35 PM
Just now.

jason 2:36 PM
Oh man, deep cut with Dom's "dmnkly" internet handle.

Remi 2:36 PM
Not the one he used in the chat, mind you.
2:36
That was later.
2:36
The log is on TSB. ;

jason 2:38 PM
Hahaha, "You've both voiced Guybrush Threepwood."
2:39
Dom's pointing out that it's been ten years since his last paid gig as Guybrush.
2:39
Dude's gotta eat. Come on, Iger.

elTee 2:39 PM
where is craig derrick when we need him

Remi 2:40 PM
ATM is wrong about the date, tut tut.

elTee 2:40 PM
(I guess he's at home like everyone else)

jason 2:40 PM
Hee. Marius noticing that Guybrush turns into a massive prick when he meets Meathook.

Remi 2:41 PM
The whole Meathook scene is great.
2:41
And he also have the mysterious tunnel in his house, of course.

elTee 2:41 PM
yeah I love this part

jason 2:41 PM
Meathook turns the tables in Part Two, so it evens out.
2:42
He's a little bit of a precursor to Duke Grabowski. Big, burly softie.

Remi 2:42 PM
That game... :~

zaarin 2:43 PM
Don't talk shit about jason's favourite game ;

Remi 2:43 PM
Hey, all respect that he likes it.

jason 2:43 PM
My favorite game [that my name is in].

Remi 2:43 PM
I just don't. ;

jason 2:43 PM
Duke is good. It's just 45 minutes.

Remi 2:44 PM
It got so cringe-worthy I gave up after ten.

jason 2:44 PM
But those backgrounds.

Remi 2:44 PM
Yes, love the background.

jason 2:44 PM
Ah, poor Marius, playing the German version of CMI where the song got cut out.
2:45
Dom says it's the only recording on the games he didn't do in isolation.

Remi 2:45 PM
Please, old news.

jason 2:45 PM
They can still go back and record "Plank of Love."

Remi 2:45 PM
That'd be one hell of an SE.

jason 2:47 PM
Do the adjectives in front of the pirates' names signify their swordfighting experience level?
2:47
CMI was more clear on that.
2:47
"Stinking Pirate" doesn't say much. I guess that's Tier 1.
2:49
Dom thinks he has the script to EMI in his garage.
2:49
Huge mistake to reveal that to a chat room of Monkey Island fans

Remi 2:49 PM
What?
2:49
No!
2:49
You think I lower myself to go in as Mojo?
2:50
Please.

jason 2:50 PM
Jake's not cutting corners. I'd be hitting the period key all over the swordfighting tedium.

Remi 2:50 PM
Same.

elTee 2:51 PM
why do I have it in my head that when you get a new insult, you stay still and the next pirate has the response for it?
2:51
I'm going to end up trying it ¬

Bennyboy 2:51 PM
I always just stood by the fork and let them come to you

Remi 2:51 PM
I did, too.
2:52
Man, almost two hours in.

jason 2:53 PM
Man, Dom's really upping the value here. Good tidbits on the recording sessions.
2:53
Hope the video gets preserved.

Remi 2:53 PM
I hope retains a copy of thise...
2:53
Yes
2:53
That.

zaarin 2:54 PM
Twitch will save it for 60 days if Jake has a paid account. Need to put it on Youtube to save it for good, I think

Remi 2:55 PM
We'll donate our YouTube space for it. ;

zaarin 2:55 PM

You can save highlights for longer periods of time, but I don't remember how that worked exactly

jason 2:56 PM
Haha, poor Dom having to read all the times on the clock, and all the colors in the Herman MI2 dialog.

Remi 2:56 PM
The man did a good job at it.
2:57
Hee, Jake losing at sword fighting.
2:57
Pretty much how it would be if I was playing.

jason 2:57 PM
Dom says 20-30 four-hour sessions to record CMI and EMI. The Special Editions took only a few days. Didn't realize the sequels had that much more dialog.

Remi 2:59 PM
Oh man, finding the script.

jason 2:59 PM
Nice.

elTee 2:59 PM
the lines are all pretty short in the first two games I guess

jason 3:00 PM
I do remember at the time it being said that EMI set the record for most lines of dialog in an LEC game.

elTee 3:00 PM
to fit neatly on screen

Remi 3:00 PM
7,000 odd lines, right?

jason 3:00 PM
Something crazy.
3:00
I mean for it to beat Grim, which had such larger scope...

zaarin 3:01 PM
Fate of Atlantis bragged it had 8000 lines in the talkie demo, I think

jason 3:01 PM
Stemmle and Clark told The SCUMM Bar that EMI had over 10,000 lines.

Remi 3:01 PM
Well then. Anyone higher?

zaarin 3:02 PM