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MI3: SE not in Madame Xima's cards 17 Jul, 2010 / 16 comments

Bill Tiller's latest tweet:

No CMI SE for me. Not sure there will even be one. Bummed.

Not sure what Bill knows that we don't about the likelihood of The Curse of Monkey Island special edition, but I guess he got his response from LEC. It's fair enough and probably just as well if the project isn't being planned - as awesome as an enhanced version of CMI would be, the original game holds up far too well for Bill or LEC to sacrifice precious time on a remake that they can devote to new projects.

Hopefully, if it is indeed the intention for the Special Edition treatment of the Monkey Island saga to end with the second game, LucasArts can work on some re-releases. I think we can all agree that there's really no excuse for things like this having reason to exist.

Source: Bill Tiller's twitter feed

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    mmikkel on 22 Jul, 2010, 07:53…

    valkian

    clone2727

    There already is a Mac version of MI1:SE...


    And also, isn't Steam now available on Mac? which would mean both SE can be played on Macs?



    The Steam application itself is available on Mac, but the games found within are still platform specific. I'm running MI2:SE through Wine, and its totally smooth. MI1:SE isn't starting for me, though (through Steam, that is, I haven't bought the other Mac native version)
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    valkian on 21 Jul, 2010, 04:40…

    clone2727

    There already is a Mac version of MI1:SE...


    And also, isn't Steam now available on Mac? which would mean both SE can be played on Macs?
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    clone2727 on 20 Jul, 2010, 11:58…

    mmikkel

    6. Friggin' Mac versions of MI1 and 2 SE's

    There already is a Mac version of MI1:SE...
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    syntheticgerbil on 19 Jul, 2010, 17:19…
    My guess is Bill Tiller was hoping that LucasArts would hand CMI over to Autumn Moon to remake, as opposed to Lucasfilm Singapore this time.

    It would bring in a generous amount of extra money for the studio and Tiller could ensure that the thing was remade correctly.

    It's also somewhat of a pipe dream, but then again, Telltale was licensed to use the Monkey Island property as well. I wouldn't mind a remake with higher res animation and the added in unfinished cutscenes, but It's not the most important thing.
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    mmikkel on 19 Jul, 2010, 08:43…
    Could CMI benefit from a SE treatment? Of course.

    Higher-res artwork with shader effects like the other SE's (glowing lights, flowing water, smoke etc. and a more "alive" environment. Higher animation framerate. Better sound compression for the VOs and music. The "lost" cutscene added in (and a lengthier end cutscene, although that would entail "changing" the game). Special features like concept art and commentary.

    Will the gain/difference be as big as the other SEs? Hardly. CMI has aged extremely well.

    While it would be really cool, I'm not sure if its worth it. The voices and music are perfect as-is - except for the compression - and LucasArts would only have to add some VOs and music for the lost cutscene.

    The big workload would lie in re-scanning the linework for the art and repainting that, new/improved animations etc. For me, though, the art style of CMI is so much Bill Tiller's child and creation that unless he's a big part of the project, I don't want them to touch it. I really like the slight manga-fication of MI1 and 2, but it would be a blasphemy to coat CMIs glorious handdrawn art in that style.

    I think some better use of money and resources could be

    1. More Tales from Monkey Island episodes
    2. Paying Ron Gilbert 50 million dollars to do MI5
    3. Hiring a commando group to hunt down and destroy every single copy of Escape from Monkey Island in existence
    4. SE treatment of Loom and prouduction of its two sequels
    5. SE treatment of any of the following: Day of the Tentacle, Sam and Max Hit the Road, Fate of Atlantis, The Dig
    6. Friggin' Mac versions of MI1 and 2 SE's
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    valkian on 19 Jul, 2010, 03:15…

    Gabez

    As I understand it, the line drawings could be rescanned at higher res, but they would have to be re-coloured in, and touched up etc. (see http://twitter.com/billtiller/status/16767671770)


    Right, I checked if I could find our chat and he indeed said the same he tweeted. I probably confused it with another game.
    So yes, it would be great he was hired to re-make the art but remaking the in-game animations and cut-scenes might be way trickier.
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    Sopabuena on 19 Jul, 2010, 01:07…
    Great news. We don't need no CMI. Bring on something else.
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    Gabez on 18 Jul, 2010, 22:35…

    valkian

    I’m pretty sure it is available in higher resolution (I think I even talked about this with Mr.Tiller years ago).

    As I understand it, the line drawings could be rescanned at higher res, but they would have to be re-coloured in, and touched up etc. (see http://twitter.com/billtiller/status/16767671770)

    Bill has also said in the past that his Photoshop skills are better now than they were during CMI, and I imagine if he was to do the SE art again, he'd change details as well (see http://billisboard.blogspot.com/2010/06/image-from-my-game-ghost-vooju-island.html and thx to Hayden Wright for the link there)
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    valkian on 18 Jul, 2010, 19:33…
    They actually can make a SE that is simply the exact same game in higher quality. Sound was undoubtedly recorded by today standards but simply reduced in quality later on to fit on cds, same thing with the artwork used, I’m pretty sure it is available in higher resolution (I think I even talked about this with Mr.Tiller years ago). As for the sprite animations, I’m not sure.
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    Glo_kidd on 18 Jul, 2010, 00:17…

    Melancholick

    But, as noted by my fellow Mojoites, CMI holds up infinitely better than practically any other LA title, barring perhaps Grim Fandango. Making a reprisal a foregone conclusion--and getting "bummed (:()" over it--seems a little, uh... indulgent.



    I agree completely, i was trying to imply more that its a shame that he may not be involved but its not like the project wouldn't be able to go ahead without without him. I actually wrote all that too but when i looked at the wall of text i was about to post i figured a :( would do just as well :)
    Also a side point could be that if they were to get anyone it would seem more likely they'd get Ahern and Ackley, given what they've done with Ron and Tim on 1 and 2(also Dave in the latter) It seems to be focused on project leads.

    Either way there will always be a little bit of Tiller in the world of MI especially now with the first to having the SE treatment. We now have 5 titles worth of Curly-clouds :D!!!
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    Melancholick on 17 Jul, 2010, 23:55…

    Glo_kidd

    To play devils advocate here: Its not like they got Purcell and Chan to come back and repaint MI 1 and 2 so I'm not sure its that likely that they would get Tiller back to do the work here :(



    Y'know, I love Tiller as much as any AG zealot should, but the guy seems to have the skin thickness of an overripe plum. It's like Ron-Ron and "Shafer" were brought back for the first two games, leading Bill to just naturally conclude that there would be a third, and that he'd be getting that call to come in and sermonize.

    But, as noted by my fellow Mojoites, CMI holds up infinitely better than practically any other LA title, barring perhaps Grim Fandango. Making a reprisal a foregone conclusion--and getting "bummed (:()" over it--seems a little, uh... indulgent.
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    Glo_kidd on 17 Jul, 2010, 21:23…
    Wow, amazon prices have been crap for years but really ...just wow :( jewel case CMI ouch, LEC needs to do one for that reason alone. I have to admit though at native non fullscreen resolution that little window is going to look pretty tiny in 1900x1200 if they just do a 1-1 re-release.

    (LOL, just looked at tillers twitter where he said the art was created at 640x480 and cant be rescanned. I dont believe in revisionist history so ill leave this part of my post intact but disregard this part :( )
    Has it ever been definitively said that the original artwork wouldn't be able to be re-used? Was it made digitally or hand painted? if digitally i could see why as its already at a set resolution but if painted it should be able to be scanned in at a higher res even if its on something like postcard stock. We have more than enough awesome posters made by Laserschwert that prove that as most were made from scans of the original boxes and a lot of touch ups. With them having actually found an unused MI2 scene it may be likely that they still have at least a lot of the original work if it exists in a physical medium.

    To play devils advocate here: Its not like they got Purcell and Chan to come back and repaint MI 1 and 2 so I'm not sure its that likely that they would get Tiller back to do the work here :(

    But hey, its not the end of the world :) the stars and moons have arranged in a very special way as of late and some interesting and crazy opportunities are there to be taken. Consider that -1: We have a team at LEC glowing after a fantastic reception of their latest creation -2: We have a tonne of fans new and old who just finished MI2 and are talking about the ending again and-3: AFAIK Ron is curr4ently unattached to a project :D!!
    As unlikely as it is to happen the factors are all perfect for Ron's MI3a to actually happen :) I'm perfectly fine with alternate reality based logic so imo such a thing would coexist with the now established cannon all the way to TOMI. It worked well enough with the Zelda series ;)
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    clone2727 on 17 Jul, 2010, 20:03…
    Hell, I got my Chinese version for less than half that price.
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    Silvor on 17 Jul, 2010, 17:41…
    As others have said I too feel that the game holds up today.
    I Suggest animating that missing cutscene, in the same style as the other cutscenes, getting commentary and maybe an optional filter to smooth out the edges for the young players of today who can't stand jagged edges.
    I read somewhere that they actually did record the dialogue for that missing cutscene when they did the game originally. Which is very good Because Dominic Armato's voice is a little bit different now so re recording it would make it stand out.
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    Scurvyliver on 17 Jul, 2010, 15:15…
    The only thing it needs is a longer ending. They should spend a bit of $ animating that cut scene where Elaine is fighting the skeletal horde - package it as SE and charge full price. Who amongst us wouldn't buy that :D

    And yes, on ebay for $93 is nuts! :) My copy has now become an investment. haha
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    Threepwood4life on 17 Jul, 2010, 15:08…
    CMI is perfect as it is LucasArts really need to re-release it on Steam and various other platforms

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