Bill Tiller Kickstarter is A Vampyre Story: Year One

13 Jun, 2012, 17:40 | Posted by: Zaarin | Source: Bill's twitter

Bill Tiller revealed today that he's still working on a video for a future Kickstarter to fund the prequel A Vampyre Story: Year One. The plan is to launch it in September.

He also posted an image of a prop that will feature in the video:

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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 20 Jun, 2012, 08:10 | Quote
    I felt guilty about the tones of my critics.
    I sent him a mail to clarify the non-destructive nature of my rant.
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    Comment by: Jason | Posted 19 Jun, 2012, 23:55 | Quote

    Melancholick

    ... I know it's probably just the years/miles talking, but this feels like the third or fourth time that something we've done on Mojo has made Bill sad.



    Mojo: Antagonizing its heroes since 1996!
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    Comment by: Melancholick | Posted 19 Jun, 2012, 11:42 | Quote
    ... I know it's probably just the years/miles talking, but this feels like the third or fourth time that something we've done on Mojo has made Bill sad.

    I always imagine him typing his responses with a kind of slow-blinking, under-breath-muttered acceptance, like Snuffleupagus.
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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 18 Jun, 2012, 07:17 | Quote
    Now this is astonishing! Not only he reads Mojo, he cares about fans' feedback too! His response was indeed very sincere and genuine, he seems to know very well about the flaws we were speaking of. I hope he won't stop making games, he just needs to improve with some aspects.
    Anyway, as I said before, I'm going to keep supporting him. Giving my money is the only thing I can do.
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    Comment by: Jon N/A | Posted 18 Jun, 2012, 02:59 | Quote
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    Comment by: Jones Jr | Posted 17 Jun, 2012, 18:49 | Quote

    manny_c44

    My only wish for future Autumn Moon games is that at the end of development they play through with a critical eye toward pacing and relevant/funny dialog. I feel like 1/2 to 2/3 of the dialog could have been lopped away from the previous games and they would have been more compelling.



    When I read Run Rogers first comment I thought, "ooh harsh!", then I thought about it and I have to agree with manny-c44's comment.
    I don't think Tiller is a bad game developer - the art is fantastic and the engine certainly does the job. It really is the writing that is the component that lets AME's games down.
    If they could sharpen that up then maybe they could rival Double Fine or TellTale (think Sam & Max Season 3, not the Universal games).
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    Comment by: Vainamoinen | Posted 17 Jun, 2012, 13:44 | Quote
    Wait, so this is a kickstarter where people actually know what they'd get?!

    ...that won't work! ;)
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    Comment by: manny_c44 | Posted 16 Jun, 2012, 22:31 | Quote
    My only wish for future Autumn Moon games is that at the end of development they play through with a critical eye toward pacing and relevant/funny dialog. I feel like 1/2 to 2/3 of the dialog could have been lopped away from the previous games and they would have been more compelling.
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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 16 Jun, 2012, 18:10 | Quote

    Jennifer

    I'd rather have a text-only AVS Year One with a great story, excellent puzzles, and great music and art (which Autumn Moon already handles well) than one that is fully voiced but suffers in some areas because of it.


    This!
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    Comment by: Jennifer | Posted 16 Jun, 2012, 17:11 | Quote

    Rum Rogers

    @Jennifer: I wasn't aware of this, my fault. I guess I'll just have to take back my praise to DF for the kickstarter thing, though the rest remains unvaried.


    Fair enough. I do agree that Autumn Moon's games weren't the best. In my opinion, they just barely scraped by to fall in the average category.

    MrManager

    I tend to agree his games have been mediocre, but I also think budgets have played a part in that. I'm not saying Tiller with a bigger budget would be the next Schafer, but then again, who knows? He has at least nailed the atmosphere in his previous games.


    True. It's maybe a case of Bill Tiller stretching out the budget a little too thin. Psychonauts was excellent, but had a budget of $13 million US. Stacking and Costume Quest were also excellent, but had a budget of $3 million US. They made the most out of their games by sacrificing voice so the rest of the game could be the best it could at the budget they were given. Maybe Autumn Moon should do similar? I'd rather have a text-only AVS Year One with a great story, excellent puzzles, and great music and art (which Autumn Moon already handles well) than one that is fully voiced but suffers in some areas because of it.
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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 16 Jun, 2012, 08:45 | Quote
    @Jennifer: I wasn't aware of this, my fault. I guess I'll just have to take back my praise to DF for the kickstarter thing, though the rest remains unvaried.

    @MrManager: yeah, that's true. He nailed the classic look&feel pretty well. That's why, after all, I'm going to keep on supporting Bill with his games. That's for sure!
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    Comment by: Jennifer | Posted 15 Jun, 2012, 22:46 | Quote

    Rum Rogers

    And I'm not talking just about innovation of games, I mean, even the kickstarter stuff was totally unexpected and led to a new way to make games, with everyone jumping on that wagon.


    It's not fair to criticize Autumn Moon for using kickstarter while at the same time praising Double Fine. Kickstarter is not new, and Ron Gilbert and Tim Schafer weren't even the first adventure game veterans to use it. LucasArts and Telltale Games veteran Heather Logas already used kickstarter to fund an adventure game back in 2010, which was covered by Mojo at the time: http://mixnmojo.com/news/Heather-Logas-Strikes-Back
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    Comment by: MrManager | Posted 15 Jun, 2012, 17:45 | Quote

    Rum Rogers

    I'm going to go with "mediocre" then.



    I tend to agree his games have been mediocre, but I also think budgets have played a part in that. I'm not saying Tiller with a bigger budget would be the next Schafer, but then again, who knows? He has at least nailed the atmosphere in his previous games.
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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 15 Jun, 2012, 15:36 | Quote

    Jennifer

    How does making playable games make him a "poor" game developer? Even you said that they were OK games. I'd think that would make him an OK game developer.


    I see my post disappointed some of you here.
    Didn't mean to offend or attack anyone.
    I don't consider him an OK game developer for the mere fact that he seems a bit uninspired to me. As a Ron & Tim purist, I follow them a lot and see them continuously innovating everything.
    And I'm not talking just about innovation of games, I mean, even the kickstarter stuff was totally unexpected and led to a new way to make games, with everyone jumping on that wagon.
    Pure genius. Stacking? Genius. Psychonauts? Masterpiece.
    To me, Bill only seems to miss the good ol' CoMI times (me too, actually), always proposing the same stuff.
    So, maybe the term "poor" was a bit harsh, I admit it.
    I'm going to go with "mediocre" then.
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    Comment by: Jennifer | Posted 15 Jun, 2012, 13:59 | Quote

    Rum Rogers

    Bill Tiller, great illustrator, poor game developer. Just my humble opinion. He's more of a fan who makes "more of the same" than an innovator as Ron or Tim. Everything he does has already been done: episodic format first, then kickstarter. AVS and Ghost Pirates were just good enough to be considered OK. Nothing more, nothing less. No touch of genius. Great artist, though.


    How does making playable games make him a "poor" game developer? Even you said that they were OK games. I'd think that would make him an OK game developer.
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    Comment by: Jeo | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 18:31 | Quote

    Jason


    The rights to the sequel are tied up with a publisher who won't fund its development. Sucks.


    Well that explains a lot. I haven't really been keeping up with AVS development. It seems a bit messy, but I hope they'll pull through!
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    Comment by: Jason | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 17:55 | Quote

    Rum Rogers


    You quoted just part of my post



    I recognize that - it was a difficult part to get past.

    Jeo

    I'd rather fund a sequel. Anyone who's finished the first game should know why.



    The rights to the sequel are tied up with a publisher who won't fund its development. Sucks.
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    Comment by: Jeo | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 15:48 | Quote
    I'd rather fund a sequel. Anyone who's finished the first game should know why.
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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 15:40 | Quote

    Jason

    What do either of these things have to do with being a good "game developer?"


    If you don't consider innovation, genius and good storytelling/riddles to be parameters of quality for a developer of graphic adventures, then... nothing at all.
    You quoted just part of my post, I wasn't only referring to episodic and kickstarter, I told something about the quality of the games too.
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    Comment by: Jason | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 14:54 | Quote

    Rum Rogers

    He's more of a fan who makes "more of the same" than an innovator as Ron or Tim. Everything he does has already been done: episodic format first, then kickstarter.



    What do either of these things have to do with being a good "game developer?"
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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 14:17 | Quote

    Jason

    Is he? Feel like I would have noticed.


    Just my humble opinion. He's more of a fan who makes "more of the same" than an innovator as Ron or Tim. Everything he does has already been done: episodic format first, then kickstarter. AVS and Ghost Pirates were just good enough to be considered OK. Nothing more, nothing less. No touch of genius. Great artist, though.
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    Comment by: Jason | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 13:37 | Quote

    Rum Rogers

    Bill Tiller, great illustrator, poor game developer.



    Is he? Feel like I would have noticed.
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    Comment by: Rum Rogers | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 12:57 | Quote
    Bill Tiller, great illustrator, poor game developer.
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    Comment by: Jason | Posted 14 Jun, 2012, 08:39 | Quote
    I like how the pitch itself has a production schedule. Should be impressive.

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