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LucasArts Cancels Sam & Max Freelance Police, Resigns Self to Mediocrity 03 Mar, 2004, 14:55 / 153 comments

Yep, they've done it. LucasArts has just announced that they've stopped work on Sam & Max 2, saying "After careful evaluation of current market place realities and underlying economic considerations, we've decided that this was not the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC."

Don't believe that its possible? Here's the official announcement from LucasArts.com. Our best wishes go out to everyone on the Sam & Max 2 team, who are apprently all still going to be kept on at LucasArts.

To us, the decision seems completely absurd, and not just because "we love adventure games," or something. Surely Sam & Max's production was plagued with troubles, but from the sounds of it so is every game project. Everything that came out about Sam & Max seemed golden. The press was drooling over the game. It looked like they had a sequel going on that, unlike some other recent sequels, was actually going ot get it right. But now, out of the blue, its gone. Which really really makes all of us wonder...


an editorial by the staff of Mixnmojo

LucasArts has made a gigantic mistake.

There, we've said it. Everyone else is already thinking it, and other people have probably already said it, but now we've said it too. The official Mixnmojo stance on Sam & Max 2 being cancelled is that LucasArts has seriously screwed up, just about as much as possible.

Production has stopped on the last original game --and the only game really-- anyone around here was genuinely interested in seeing. Cancelled. Why? From the sounds of it, the people in the Sales department spent the last three months winding themselves up about how impossible it would be for them to sell a quirky adventure game, eventually just snapped, and cancelled the title. Is that screwed up? Yes, that is screwed up.

LucasArts has made a lot of really bad moves in the last year. RTX Red Rock was allowed to ship. It tanked hard. Who really thought RTX would be marketable, would sell well, would really catch the attention of gamers? Full Throttle 2, despite a constant stream of negative to lukewarm receptions from magazines and fans, was allowed to live on in production far longer than anyone really wanted.

Armed & Dangerous, one of the few truly original gems LucasArts has dealt with in the last five or six years, was rushed out early by the suits, in hopes of grabbing some Christmas shoppers. This was decided despite Christmas being notorious for huge A-list titles like Lord of the Rings hogging the coverage and hype, and for mothers who know nothing about games being the ones doing the shopping. Not surprisingly, Armed & Dangerous had a poor holiday season. Who knows what might have happened if they'd let Planet Moon refine the game for a few months, and released A&D it in the nearly empty February, after everyone had exhausted their Christmas games and was looking for something new?

Recently, they shipped Wrath Unleashed. For more on Wrath, see RTX a few paragraphs up. And finally, today we receive word that Sam & Max Freelance Police has been axed.

Notice a trend here? Correct. Not one of the recent LucasArts bungles mentioned above contained the two magic words, Star Wars. If you give the suits at LucasArts a Star Wars game, they can sell it. Why? Because they don't have to try! No cleverness is needed. That's not to say it doesn't take any work, but for the most part you just need to get the screenshots out, buy a few ads on Gamespot, and tell the press "yep, it's basically like EA's The Two Towers game, but this time you play as characters from -- wait for it -- Star Wars!" WHOP, you've made the cover of EGM. (Of course it helps, but isn't essential, if the Star Wars game you're selling is actually good, like KOTOR)

LucasArts has more or less proven that they can sell the hell out of anything that says Star Wars on the box (again, because that takes no creativity and instead a few magic words, some money, and maybe a wave or two of the nostalgia wand, or possibly the soccer mom wand depending if it's a classic or prequel title), but more importantly they've proven that if they are handed anything without the Star Wars name to sell the game for them, they will just have absolutely no idea what to do.

Games that should be cancelled, or seriously retooled, end up shipping and doing poorly, or lingering in production for months draining company resources. Games that need more time are rushed out the door. And finally, when a game falls into their lap that has the gaming press of the Western world salivating like mad, they flip out and cancel it.

And let's be honest here. Even though it sounds a little insane if you look at it from the wrong perspective ("giant dog and rabbit who fight crime, what's the appeal in that?!"), LucasArts has no adventure game, short of making up Star Wars adventure games, that will ever be as marketable as Sam & Max. Not Monkey Island 5, not Day of the Tentacle 2. Even the Indiana Jones adventure game franchise has been muddled beyond recognition at this point. Sam & Max pack personality, edginess, and firearms in unmentionable places like no other LucasArts game series -- actually like no other game series at all, and they do it in a way that basically anybody can laugh at. There are very few people with any size sense of humor who, after hearing them utter just a few sentences, aren't sold on the quality of the characters and the humor. And on top of that, unlike basically any other sequel LucasArts could consider, Sam and Max have no back story, no possible way of alienating new players.

Sam and Max are weird, granted, but is there anybody out there who genuinely thinks they're less accessible than Wrath Unleashed? Less intriguing on a store shelf than RTX Red Rock? Yes, in fact, there is. The LucasArts sales department.

I can see where they're coming from, in a way. If every game without a Star Wars logo that came through your door ended up tanking, getting cancelled, or somehow cause you a huge amount of grief, you might be inclined to just kill the next one in line and get it over with. In a way, their behavior like that is understandable. However, it becomes entirely unacceptable when you remember, that's not their job! Their job is to actually think about things, figure out what's been going wrong, and how to fix it. Their job is to actually try, not to just throw the switch, or pass the title along 'till its out the door, and then attempt to absolve themselves of blame.

Today's an extremely sad day for LucasArts, and we hope they all know it. If they can't even figure that out, they're in far worse trouble than we could have imagined.


Want LucasArts to know what you think? For God's sake, don't start a petition! Tell them yourself! Email LucasArts PR, and let them know whats on your mind (in a constructive way, but don't hold back or anything)! Companies are pretty unlikely to un-cancel a game they've already given the axe, but they should at least know when they've made a mistake.

Comments

  • piratebd on 14 Mar, 2004, 11:26…
    hi...im new [in terms of membership...not adventure games or lucasarts games]

    i soooo hate lucasarts right now!!!!!!! what the hell happened???? how could they???? what the hell is wrong with those

    pezzonovantes up at the financing department????????? What the hell is wrong with LucasArts???? kudos to Mixnmojo for that

    fine rant[more like truth]. but as much as i am disgusted, as much as i am devastated, disappointed and all...i cant help but

    stay around lucasarts just a wee bit longer!!!! i mean...it just doesnt make any sense!!! Steve Purcell himself said that the

    game was coming along beautifully and it was on schedule and well...everything was EXCELLENT!!! but this cancellation makes

    absolutely no sense!!!! why would lucasarts axe a game so near completion...i think only a few weeks was needed thats all!!!

    and why would they do it now??? they couldve done it a year...ok...six months ago!!! at least that wouldve made us wonder how

    good the game really was. but now...after everything is done and all the money spent and all the screenshots [ok...only one]

    were released and all the hype reached a feverish climax [daikatana anyone]...y would they do that??? i mean even

    daikatana,one of THE most anticipated games of that time, was released, even tho it was a crap game. And y would LucasArts

    cancel a game soo rich and apparently good...a mere weeks b4 release??? i myself think that the whole thing is a hoax to grab

    all our attentions and then of course seeing our reactions. i myself think that maybe...on April 1st...LucasArts will just

    point a finger at the community and say with a HUGE smile on their faces..."APRIL FOOL!!!!" I mean...it has to be that or

    else...why spend millions[maybe not MILLIONS] on a game...wait till completion...and then just cancel it with the lamest

    excuse possible!!!!! i think on or after April 1st, they're gonna release it with the aforementioned pinting-finger shouting

    "APRIL FOOL!!!!" Who else but our beloved[at least previously beloved if im wrong here] LucasArts team has THAT type of

    humour. As for FT2...i hope they buried the game deep underground...it wasnt looking like a mediocre game much less a good

    one. Man I hope I'm right on this, I really don't want to give up on the company which has made me feel better than anything

    else!!!!!
  • csenosiain on 09 Mar, 2004, 19:06…
    Anyone remember when the news about Sam and Max 2 was announced here on Mixnmojo and it got like 120 comments?
  • Tall Guy on 12 Mar, 2004, 19:53…
    yeah, pity is had to be this that topped it....
  • lagamorph321 on 09 Mar, 2004, 17:43…
    Visit savesamandmax.com and write pr@lucasarts.com. Read all the stuff on savesamandmax.com for ways to try to...uhm... save Sam and Max Freelance Police!
  • ThunderPeel2001 on 06 Mar, 2004, 22:37…
    Sam and Max: Rebel Assault?

    Nice editorial BTW
  • Emma on 06 Mar, 2004, 14:17…
    Perhaps Simon Jeffrey was fleeing a sinking ship?!
  • Tall Guy on 05 Mar, 2004, 15:35…
    ahh this dosn't suprise me at all, i mean it was coming along so well...they had to can it...

    :(
  • Scummbuddy on 05 Mar, 2004, 05:38…
    What a nice way to spend the 5th anniversary of www.samnmax.net , wouldn't you say?
  • zekard on 04 Mar, 2004, 21:32…
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?LACOSAM&1

    sign the petition!
  • Gabez on 04 Mar, 2004, 19:47…
    Something that also springs to mind: You've only just thought that the PC market isn't prepared for another graphics adventure? SHouldn't you have thought about this BEFORE you made the game and got everyone excited?
  • Nath5000 on 05 Mar, 2004, 00:32…
    how stupid are they. they really were just trying to generate interest to see how the market would respond. maybe they had a hidden web counter on their sam and max page at the site? as far as sections on lucasarts went, sam and max got the shaft tho because their section was bone dry. lucasarts is stupid. enough said. keep milking the star wars cash cow there lucas, pretty soon ur whole universe is gonna go to shit
  • Nath5000 on 05 Mar, 2004, 00:32…
    how stupid are they. they really were just trying to generate interest to see how the market would respond. maybe they had a hidden web counter on their sam and max page at the site? as far as sections on lucasarts went, sam and max got the shaft tho because their section was bone dry. lucasarts is stupid. enough said. keep milking the star wars cash cow there lucas, pretty soon ur whole universe is gonna go to shit
  • MonkeyMug on 04 Mar, 2004, 18:47…
    >:[ *looks at her LucasArts mouse pad and jabs it with a pen*
  • Marek on 05 Mar, 2004, 10:35…
    What the hell?! Now that you mention it, I continued using my LucasArts mouse pad since the game was cancelled. I clearly need to tuck it away in a deep drawer or something.
  • GregD on 04 Mar, 2004, 19:34…
    Burn it I say!

    In fact we should all make effergies (sp?). :)
  • scabb on 04 Mar, 2004, 17:25…
    :~
  • Josty on 04 Mar, 2004, 18:48…
    That sums it up very nicely.
  • Metallus on 05 Mar, 2004, 03:56…
    More like, >:~
  • Josty on 05 Mar, 2004, 04:59…
    Well, yes. Anger is good. More anger!
  • black_sheep on 04 Mar, 2004, 17:16…
    Maybe lucas Arts missread the calendar. maybe they saw it was april first not march the first. did u ever think of that? apparently not! I'm crying right now lucas arts. can u give a "Sam n Max2" to wipe my tears?!
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 21:42…
    we will be so DEAD if at April 1st they say its been a joke :~
  • GregD on 04 Mar, 2004, 15:16…
    LEC just dont have any balls when it comes to making games anymore im sorry to say. I've suspected it since I played Indy and the Emporers tomb.

    They just dont want to take risks in the marketplace because they like their precious money so much.

    They would far rather make countless Star Wars games because they know they are revenue earning.

    Sorry LEC but you officially SUCK! You are no longer the pioneers you were... You are just another money grabbing corporation, concerned more about your finances than your customers.
  • scaryrobot on 04 Mar, 2004, 14:41…
    Lucasarts is dead to me now... It was good while it lasted.
  • Carlius on 04 Mar, 2004, 13:44…
    Now I've done my duty, I actually wrote them a pretty polite mail, polite but sincere what I think of their f&%?ed decision Ps. make yourself heard at the poll at Gamespot Ds.
  • KrK on 04 Mar, 2004, 12:52…
    I hope LucasArts realise that this is their biggest mistake. Theres no market for adventure games? Runaway, Broken Sword 3, Syberia / Syberia 2. Ring any bells? Have they not even looked outside of their offices? The adventure game is, and never will be dead.

    To date I have bought every LucasArts adventure game since the days of Zak. Unless they rectify this "hiccup" (thats all it better be), then they can kiss goodbye to my custom.

    Sign the petitions, and keep mailing them. I don't know about you lot, but I will not be going quietly!
  • Gabez on 04 Mar, 2004, 15:03…
    Not to mention Longest Journey II and Myst III, plus loads of other adventure games / adventure hybirds coming soon
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 21:41…
    myst3? you mean myst4 or smth? :~
  • LucasTones on 04 Mar, 2004, 12:51…
    The very fact that there are aproaching 130 replies to this news within 2 days is testament to the outrage of the community.
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:50…
    i think lucasarts missed this site's and its members' activity and did it all for us so we could be reunited once again :~
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:51…
    i think i masturbated once too little, im seeing double ?
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:49…
    i think lucasarts missed this site's and its members' activity and did it all for us so we could be reunited once again :~
  • Gabez on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:25…
    Also "the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC" is clearly bullshit - do you see other companies pulling away from the PC graphic adventure market? Fuck no. Come on LucasArts, you little shits, don't pull away from everything you once stood for.
  • Kingzjester on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:24…
    Stemmle should break with Lucas Arts go to nevada and form a drag queen biker gang with Willie Nelson and Skeletor and Queen Mum!!!!

    Ok, people, stop saying stupid things. Tim doesn't need Stemmle, nor does Gilbert need either one of them.
  • boeffl on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:23…
    LucasArts? there is no LucasArts any more. no sam and max, no MI5........thats the end of the adventure genre. LucasArts once borned the genre, now they killed it
  • Gabez on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:27…
    Except other companies still support it (kind of)
  • movieclockstar on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:17…
    What a crock. I have supported LEC through weak times, buying lackluster Jedi Knight games and the like, but no longer. Until they deliver a decent product of originality to the fans, I for one will not buy another Lucasarts game.
  • Gabez on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:16…
    Okay, so. I've slept on it. I've thought about it. I pretened that maybe, just maybe, LucasArts weren't so bad after all - but no. The more I think of it the more it seems to be the case that the company is sticking their middle finger up at the dedicated fanbase that has supported them for so long. Cancelling a well apreciated and loved franchise mere months before its release hurts ;
  • RumRogerz on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:16…
    So since lucasarts jsut fucked themselves up... what will ever happen to the fate of mixnmojo?!?!
  • boeffl on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:08…
    mike stemmle should leave fucking LEC and found his own one..........together with tim sch?fer and ron gilbert, then LucasArts can dig itself in hole
  • boeffl on 04 Mar, 2004, 10:57…
    bring back jeffers, bring back tim sch?fer, bring back sam and max
  • InsoFox on 04 Mar, 2004, 10:33…
    NOTE!

    If you're GOING to sign a petition, at least sign the already established one, at:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?LACOSAM

    which already has over 600 signatures.
  • Gustav on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:13…
    that one is going pretty fast, more than 100 signatures in a hour...
  • Toddas on 04 Mar, 2004, 10:42…
    Sensible, sesnsibe.

    Sign there; but write a personal email too.
  • Gustav on 04 Mar, 2004, 10:14…
    boo to lucasarts, this sucks (N)
    Now there is only LSL left to look forward to. :(
  • Toddas on 04 Mar, 2004, 10:10…
    Actually, I'm going to written another one to the PR-department when I get home tonight. They gotta react in some way on the public pressure being exerted on them... I wonder when development was stopped... It wasn't long ago Stemmle spoke about the 'sweet sweet lovin'' of the gpaphics engine...
  • Toddas on 04 Mar, 2004, 10:07…
    I sent the 'high officials' e-mails whilst their adresses were still available... I was very polite... But the agressions are growing... They should be glad that there is an ocean or two separating me from them...

    GNUAGHHH
  • Laurens on 04 Mar, 2004, 10:07…
    That really sucks, LucasArts. I hope they'll visit this site and see what grief they've caused.
    On the other hand, don't get all upset. Maybe after they've seen this, they will go on making adventures. But if they don't I'll kill myself! No MI 5!! AAAAARGH!!!!!
  • Mnemonic on 04 Mar, 2004, 09:54…
    [url]http://www.petitiononline.com/sammax2/petition.html[/url]
  • Mnemonic on 04 Mar, 2004, 09:53…
    There's a petition directed at lucasarts online at

    http://www.petitiononline.com/sammax2/petition.html

    go sign it now and change their mind
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 09:22…
    BREAKING NEWS: Electronic Arts decides to do what THEY are good at. They just bought up all LucasArts rights and closed down the company.

    muhaahaha

    (goodbye origin & lucasarts)
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 09:15…
    BOOYAHHHHHHHH!!!!
  • QueZTone on 04 Mar, 2004, 09:14…
    hail to BS3, Syberia and its companions!

    Goodbye lucassmcharts! I was one of your greatest fans!

  • LucasTones on 04 Mar, 2004, 09:27…
    Thats us, two of the biggest fanboys out there, renouncing LucasArts. I honestly didn't believe that would ever happen - I mean, I figured maybe one adventure game every 3 years - its not a lot, and they'd probably suck, but at least they'd be trying. Slackers / Losers / Bastards.
  • 8t88 on 04 Mar, 2004, 08:02…
    I'm not surprised at this move. Lucasarts you just lost a customer.

    WERZ THEM INZTEAD!
  • wampa_one on 04 Mar, 2004, 07:57…
    Just sent Lucasarts my e-mail. I thanked the for the past, slammed them for the present, and told them i will not be buying any Lucasarts games in the future.

    Man this sucks :(
  • InsoFox on 04 Mar, 2004, 06:37…
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  • zebulon on 04 Mar, 2004, 06:31…
    Now I've read this news, I'm totally wasted :(

    LucasArts finance and marketing guys, you deserve to be hang by the balls and get rusty forks planted in your eyes !!
    GO AND BURN IN HELL -__-
  • Dalixam on 04 Mar, 2004, 06:23…
    I think what makes me so angry is not just the cancellation of Sam & Max; this was the day that LucasArts gave up on adventure games.

    Another reason is that they blow us off with a miserable three-lines press release. It seems like they don't think the game were that important anyway and no one will care. The rest can be satisfied with a few words.

    I wrote this in my email to them, but I don't think it will make a difference. Even if Ronda Scott prints out all the emails and hands them to a pale man in a suit, I don't think he will care to read them. He'll probably think that what we say don't matter anyway and throw them out.

    I don't think anyone will read them and take note of what we say or think "Did we make a mistake?". I hope we get an official response to this, but I doubtt it.
  • u2ace on 04 Mar, 2004, 07:28…
    and this is the day that we, adventure fans, gave up on LucasArts.
  • Josty on 04 Mar, 2004, 05:59…
    Hi guys, decided to create an account here after I saw what happened. I've been a fan of Lucasarts adventure games for years and years, but that era has now come to a stop. We should have seen it coming, but I guess we were hoping it wouldn't.

    In my e-mail to them, I asked them if I could have it in black and white that they have now completely abandoned what used to make them great. I figure that works better than profanity.
  • james_isaac on 04 Mar, 2004, 04:22…
    What a let down :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
  • LucasTones on 04 Mar, 2004, 02:51…
    Call me drastic, if you will...

    http://lucastones.mixnmojo.com/newmojo.jpg
  • Metallus on 04 Mar, 2004, 03:35…
    Drastic!
  • LucasTones on 04 Mar, 2004, 04:07…
    tee ;
  • RumRogerz on 04 Mar, 2004, 02:15…
    Damn, im so pissed im posting again!

    I'm really grossed out by what lucasarts is doing! To hell with them!
    They were great once... in a fucking galaxy far far away.
    I hope they choke on a glazed mcguffin.
    Wankers
  • RumRogerz on 04 Mar, 2004, 02:12…
    LucasArts bites ass.
  • Zod on 04 Mar, 2004, 02:04…
    Currently I seriously despise Lucasarts. I've never been this involved with a computer game, but this really takes the cake. How can they expect to make money or be a good company if they keep slapping their fans in the face? It's disgusting. Anyone have George Lucas's email address? I want to write to him too.
  • isotuc on 04 Mar, 2004, 00:47…
    They haven't made a decent game since Grim Fandango. Now they go and cancel S&M2 when it was starting to look so damn choice. One more company to add to my anthrax mailing list, I suppose.
  • monkeyboobs on 04 Mar, 2004, 00:13…
    that's it. i'll never buy a lucasarts game. BIG mistake!!! they shit on their fans so i'll shit on them!

    we all know their glorious age has been the late 80's and the early 90's (great original milestones like monkey island) and we all know that they couldn't hold that high level - but there was the hope they could reach the turnaround...... they didn't. no more sympathy. that company died for me. finally. what a shame. uhm--- lucasanything? never heard.
  • monkeyboobs on 04 Mar, 2004, 01:19…
    i wrote them an angry email - the last thing i did related to lucasass. AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
  • LucasTones on 03 Mar, 2004, 23:41…
    Its so stupid, I agree with you all. I've already posted my disgust once, but I'm mad all over again now as I remember that one screenshot that showed a drop-down menu of available options for an object.

    The Adventure Game had finally been conformed to 3D, all the kinks were ironed out and we were ready to take off. Good timing, LucasArts.
  • AndrewL on 03 Mar, 2004, 23:17…
    If lucasarts saw just how many hardcore fans are completely denouncing them now from this utterly terrible decisions. ALL IT LOST YOU FOOLS. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? THIS BLUNDER WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN!
  • TyraaRane on 03 Mar, 2004, 23:16…
    I, too, e-mailed LucasArts...partly to deliver as much of a smackdown as I could, and partly because I wanted to give them one last parting "fuck you" before I quit buying their games.

    Seriously, are they that BLIND that they don't see what they've just done to their fanbase? How long do they seriously think the Star Wars "OMG a new Star Wars game like kewlies!!11one!" fanbase will last?

    I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I don't want Monkey Island 5 anymore. I love the series that much--I don't want it man-handled, bungled, canceled, and forced into a death that'd just be painful to watch.

    And I was looking forward to Sam & Max 2, too.

    I give up. No love, LucasArts. No love. kthxdie.
  • glottis42 on 03 Mar, 2004, 22:21…
    *BAM!!*

    "What the hell was that?"
    "Oh it was LucasArts down the hall. They just put a bullet through their head. Through their fucking head."
  • Niklaus on 03 Mar, 2004, 22:13…
    "There is currently no plan to reduce staff."

    >>> I think this 'Mike Nelson' should be fired...
  • Jayel on 03 Mar, 2004, 22:04…
    Screw LucasArts, I won't buy their games anymore. BOOOOOOOOO!
  • jmartin on 03 Mar, 2004, 21:49…
    Does someone have copies of the Full Throttle II trailer and all the screenshots? I won't mind having copies of those.
  • jmartin on 03 Mar, 2004, 21:28…
    *** sigh ***
  • Blondebeard on 03 Mar, 2004, 21:18…
    I just sent my e-mail to lucasarts to show how disappointed I am with this decision.

    I must say that I feel like everyone else in here..
  • ZeroXcape on 03 Mar, 2004, 21:13…
    was gonna write something, decided not to.

    just mad.
  • jp-30 on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:47…
    My prediction.

    The game will be released as scheduled "due to unprecidented demand", and this, my friends, is the greatest piece of pree-planned free "viral marketing" strategy the gaming world has ever seen.

    Hats off to the LEC marketing manager. This is BRILLIANT!

  • spaff on 04 Mar, 2004, 09:19…
    hmm.
  • tigercore on 04 Mar, 2004, 11:28…
    hmmmmmmmmmmmm
  • hoax on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:33…
    I am sorry it had to en like this Lucas Arts. I was by your side for a long time.

    Goodbye!
  • guybrushthedwarf on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:18…
    What the HELL is doing lucasarts? Did someone eat their brain or what ?! I mean ... this decision is SUCH a nonsense : since a long time ago, they had a bunch of gamers, of magazines behind them and they just cancelled one of the most anticipated games for 2004/2005 ?!
    Lucas Managers, if you bring back Monkey Island series after that i'm going to burn the bloody brain of yours!
  • spaff on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:15…
    Wow... lot of hate in this room.
    i feel sorry for the dev team, they must have worked hard for nothing. Also for Steve, he must be pretty bummed that this ahs been cancelled twice.

    Why have they decided that the markey can't handle this game, shouldnt they have decided that before starting the developent. Oh well.

    You lucky QA types who got to play it, one of you should get in touch with us and tell us about the game some time.

    to be fair there have been some good starwars games of late... ok one. (kotor) but it's sad to see this game go, a lot of people i knew personally were really looking forward to that...and also you guys of course :)

    I'm sad......

  • Nath5000 on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:41…
    kotor was bioware not lucasarts, lucasarts makes nothing good at this point
  • guybrushthedwarf on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:23…
    don't ge me - and i assume us - wrong, we're angry over the so called ' Finance and Operations' Dept of LucasArts not the over the developers. And what makes me angrier is that the dev team seems to have move the adventure genre in a new way. Dammit, none of the leaders at lucasarts seems to be able to recognize talent...
  • spaff on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:27…
    oh no, the hate is valid and of course not aimed at the dev team! :)

    As you were.
  • Carlius on 03 Mar, 2004, 19:56…
    This must be the saddest day for me as an adventuregamer ever.....Sierra meant nothing for me, I loved LucasArts...DO YOU FRICKIN ASSES HEAR ME, I LOVED YOUR TITLES...DON'T DO THIS....*sigh* All great eras has an end......*flees out in the woods crying*
  • InsoFox on 03 Mar, 2004, 19:56…
    Worst. Decision. Ever.

    Anything else I could say has already been said.
  • Dalixam on 03 Mar, 2004, 19:43…
    LucasArts is dead now. They can go on producing the pitiful Star Wars games; I will never buy them nor take an interest in them.

    Goodbye LucasArts, you just lost one of your biggest and most supportive fans. May you rot and burn in hell.
  • Haggis on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:18…
    Damn.
  • CaptainDread on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:11…
    I may not have been around as much as I was before Monkey Island 4 came out, but there's a reason for that. Monkey Island 4 soured me a little on LucasArts adventures. But, it was a new adventure, so I still had hope. I still hung on, even after Full Throttle was cancelled - because I figured LucasArts knew what they were doing - and that the sequel might tarnish one of my favorite games of all time. But, now that LucasArts has cancelled Sam and Max 2 for no other reason than "there's no market for adventure games" when it was so far in production, I'm no longer sticking with LucasArts.

    LucasArts is dead as far as I'm concerned.

    The creativity is gone, the originality is gone. They are just a shovel-ware producing Star Wars creating company.

    RIP, LucasArts. Way to alienate your whole fanbase.
  • Udvarnoky on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:08…
    I HOPE EVERYONE GETS CANCER. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!
  • Nath5000 on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:10…
    "I HOPE EVERYONE GETS CANCER. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!"??? whoa whoa calm down its not the end of the world, im sure there are still many good people left at lucasarts, unfortunately theyre all locked up in a cell with a star wars only computer. either way nobody deserves cancer at lucasarts, unless its a computer virus thatll shut them down...
  • Udvarnoky on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:20…
    Look, I don't hate people, I just hope that they all die.
  • PTDC on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:08…
    To be honest I lost faith in Lucasarts after Escape from Monkey Island. But even that, stinking pile of bullocks excrement that it is, is nothing as to this monumentally stupid decision. What a bunch of wankers.
  • CaliMonk on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:11…
    In my opinion CMI and EFMI weren't really MI games, ever since Ron Gilbert left i haven't seen a good game from LucasArts.

    I think their main problem is they don't have Fun in creating games anymore. If you dont have fun in creating a game your game wont be fun to play. Thus your games suck.
  • PTDC on 03 Mar, 2004, 19:45…
    I replayed cmi a while ago and didn't think much of it. I didn't feel as strongly about it as emi because I didn't play cmi until a couple of years after it was released and I wasn't looking forward to it as much as I was emi.In those days I didn't have internet access you see. But I digress. Lucasarse sucks :(
  • matt on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:25…
    aint it funny - there are those who dislike CMI and EMI (you) ... and those who like CMI but hate EMI (me) ... and those who hate CMI but love EMI (whoever does that) ... and thousand other combinations of Lucasarts products - but this time the have one thing in common. now they all hate Lucasarts. Seems they made some big mistakes. And the last one was fatal. I hope you goodguys@mojo know what to do tomorrow.
  • Mad Lord Snapcase on 04 Mar, 2004, 17:03…
    Not that it matters any more. I feel empty inside.
  • Mad Lord Snapcase on 04 Mar, 2004, 17:01…
    "and those who hate CMI but love EMI (whoever does that)"

    Me. And I believe Remi O. Although in both cases "hate" is a bit strong.
  • manny_c44 on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:16…
    You forgot about Grim. Which was hands down better than the first two monkey islands combined.
  • CaliMonk on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:40…
    I didn't like grim. The last good Adventure was Day of the Tentacle.
  • CaliMonk on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:34…
    I didn't like grim. The last good Adventure was Day of the Tentacle.
  • CaliMonk on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:28…
    I didn't like grim. The last good Adventure was Day of the Tentacle.
  • Gabez on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:03…
    Grim was great, and EMI was at least very succesful and widely apreciated by the gaming community
  • monkeyboobs on 04 Mar, 2004, 00:57…
    every lucasarts adventure was a great game - better than any other adventure. but GF and EFMI sucked because you couldn't play it with a mouse.
  • jp-30 on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:07…
    I'm looking forward to reading what Steve Purcell has to say on this.
  • Nath5000 on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:55…
    yeah well i understood why they were suckups before, but really they should panic. Its like having a fansite/web community under your name about a cool music singer and saying u love that singer, and then the singer turns around and starts do-ing animals. I would panic too. Lucasarts, you do animals. you fucken suck
  • jp-30 on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:54…
    Hey, Lucasarts, sell the game - or at least the rights, to some other company.

    Man, this pisses me off.
  • manny_c44 on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:15…
    They should release what they have so far to the public...
  • netmonkey on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:49…
    Hahaha... mixnmojo panics because they're a bunch of LEC suck ups. That should be the headline for this news post. :P
  • jp-30 on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:04…
    Uhh. Mojo panics because its focus is non-SW lucasArts games.

    And now there aren't any. :-|

  • manny_c44 on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:48…
    Its obvious why Tim Scahfer left, the company puts a fucking strangle hold on creativity. Fuck lucasarts.
  • Gabez on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:04…
    And maybe why Simon Jeffery left! He tried to save Sam & Max! He's a martyr! Worship him!
  • Nath5000 on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:45…
    Im known among all my friends as being the video game guru, and ive hyped everyone i know just about up about sam and max 2. I personally will make sure that I never buy or play a lucasarts title ever again until they get their heads out of jabba the hutts ass. lol. It proves that there is nothing creative left at lucasarts, it should be called Lucasass's. I will never buy a Lucasarts game again because they will never be the company they used to be. I WILL encourage all people I meet not to buy lucasarts as well and to download copies of their games. I however dont even like any games they make anymore that they would have to pay me to steal from them. Sure some starwars games are ok, but lucasarts deserves to go bankrupt. Buy battlefield, not battlefront, buy jade empire, not kotor. Dont buy lucasarts, save your money for creative companies, support star wars modders if your a star wars fan because at least some of them have a passion for what they do and arent just interested in economic conditions. I wish there was some way to declare lucasarts the worse videogame company of 2004 and to get it on the front of PC GAMER. because thats the kind of wakeup call they need.
  • monkeyboobs on 04 Mar, 2004, 00:47…
    all of my computer gaming friends told s&m2 one of the most awaited games in 2004. some of them don't know the originla, but the trailer was great enough for them to talk about in one breath with doom 3 or half-life 2.
  • JBRAA on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:20…
    Reply to: I wish there was some way to declare lucasarts the worse videogame company of 2004 and to get it on the front of PC GAMER. because thats the kind of wakeup call they need.
    Wipp em up good.
  • matt on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:50…
    Lucasass's - ... well then it's still a "great" company :) watch out: heavy load!
  • CaliMonk on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:42…
    I've actually emailed them, i have no idea i guess mostly to pay my final respect and say goodbye to the company that used to be an inspiration.

    I have no faith anymore in LucasArts, the company it was with originality and fun games is no more.

    Time to remember the oldies and forget about the current LucasArts.

    What should Mixnmojo be about from now on? Surelly we don't want a StarWars news site.
  • Entity on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:51…
    Screw LucasArts, they should convert it into a Double Fine fansite and cover LucasArts on the side. (Instead of the other way around)
  • spaff on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:17…
    that's pretty much the plan, yeah.
    =)

    at least we can feel free to slate their crap now. Like wrath.
  • matt on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:38…
    That's really a shame!
    Although I was very disappointed by MI4 and even RTX (who's gonna play that game? it's nearly unplayable)for which I had high hopes i was still looking forward for Sam & Max ... they had Steve Purcell who would have prevented that LEC did something strange to Sam & Max.

    Lucasarts is only a couple of empty suits sitting around smoking cigars ... maybe someone should make a good adventure game about them. who wants to be the hero? and what is he going to do to bring us a happy ending?
  • Entity on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:35…
    As I said in the Adventure Gamers forums, they are a bunch of fucking morons.
  • spaff on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:31…
    as they say; 'OMG THAT's BS'

    Fuck you lucasarts. Fuck you.
    do you hear me? FUCK YOU.
  • Gabez on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:40…
    Couldn't have put it better myself. ;D
  • Huz on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:35…
    Oystein put it better and more libellously but he was brutally oppressed. ;P
  • Oystein on 04 Mar, 2004, 15:39…
    So, profoundity is only okay if you're part of the Mojo staff then? Anyway, my post was the result of a few seconds of infurious rage. I'm cool now...
  • telarium on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:28…
    One of my most satisfying moments at last year's E3 was standing in front of the giant LucasArts TV monitor and watching people's reaction when Sam and Max came on the screen. People smiled and laughed. Even if you didn't know who Sam and Max were, it was a breath of fresh air among all the World War II battles, fantasy worlds, aliens, and zombies. In other words, it wasn't the same old recycled crap we see every damn year.

    In light of the possiblity of a knee-jerk reaction on my part, I will have to say that I've lost complete faith in LucasArts. Maybe the industry just doesn't lend itself to the quality of work we'd like to see from them... the kind of work that we know they are capable of.

    It's frightening when a marketing department is given the power to determine the fate of something that, while risky, could be good. But as they say, "Them's the breaks."

    I give up.
  • Swordmaster on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:32…
    Well said.
  • manny_c44 on 03 Mar, 2004, 17:21…
    I agree, well said.

    I think this might be mixnmojo's best rant ever. Very good ediotrial.
  • LucasTones on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:27…
    I can't believe this. This is the straw that broke the camels' back, goodbye LucasArts.
  • Kolzig on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:13…
    This something really absurd BS!!!

    WTF LucasArts, why, why, why...
  • Morose on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:18…
    Are you sure they didn't just do everyone a favor and kill the game because it sucked? Just because it's got Sam and Max doesn't mean it was a good game. Anymore than just because it's got Star Wars on the front it has to be decent. Something to consider before you light the torches and polish the pitchforks.
  • Jake on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:36…
    The reasoning behind the cancellation of Sam & Max and Full Throttle were very different. You can tell from the wording of the two press releases alone, but even if you move those aside and look at the press and fan reactions to the two games, its obvious that they were in two different boats as far as public perception goes.
  • DustCropper on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:27…
    Well, the wording of the announcement is different from Full Throttle:

    "We do not want to disappoint the many fans of Full Throttle, and hope everyone can understand how committed we are to delivering the best-quality gaming experience that we possibly can,"

    vs.

    "After careful evaluation of current market place realities and underlying economic considerations, we've decided that this was not the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC."

    It sounds like Sam and Max's cancelation has more to do with economic reasons than the quality of the game (as is the case for Full Throttle 2)
  • Kingzjester on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:12…
    I don't think Jake (*?) has been brutally honest enough. Tell it like it is, the company is being run by constipated lawyers.

    *) It sounds like Jake at least.
  • Jake on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:16…
    Everybody helped write it :)
  • DustCropper on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:06…
    I miss Simon Jeffery already...
  • Gabez on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:15…
    Hee yes, that's what I was thinking. Bring back Jeffers! We miss you. :~
  • Shanty on 03 Mar, 2004, 16:04…
    I think Sam said it best when he said:
    "Let's start crying like babies."
    You said it, Sam. Yoouu said it.
  • Swordmaster on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:34…
    The LucasArts we knew is dead. Long live their past titles.
  • Gabez on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:32…
    Also (we really need an edit button!) I find this quote interesting "not the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC". Firstly - when is the the "right time", and secondly, does this mean that it'll be launched on a console? I doubt it, but it's an interesting choice of words. (And speaking of words, it's great for Mojo to be so brutally honest :D - games journalism at its best)
  • Remi O on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:30…
    I laugh. That LucasArts is mismanaged is obvious, and making decisions like this just further proves the point.
  • Gabez on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:29…
    Couldn't agree more with Mojo here, it's a real shame that it's cancelled. A real shame.

    "...underlying economic considerations" - Now I'm no economicist, but surely it makes more sense to finish a game like that, especially since it seemed so near completion. It's like investing in something and then not collecting the money.

    As far as I knew, a *lot* of people were looking foward to Sam & Max 2. Not just us adventure fans, but a lot of different gamers. Why? Because Sam & Max 1 was so well loved and tearfully remembered by any self-respecting half-nostalgic gamer. Aww Jezee. It's such a shame. Don't forget that FT2 was cancelled too.

    On a brighter note, great news post Mojo! You tell it like it is. :D
  • Shanty on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:16…
    NOOOOOOOO, MY FRAGILE HOPES AND DREAMS, CRUSHED! LucasArts is dead to me. DEAD! AAAGH, THE PAIN! I can totally see attraction of being goth, or possibly buddhist.
  • Moosferatu on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:14…
    I think I'm going to cry. :(

    LucasArts has just lost the very last shred of great respect that I once had for them. For all I care now they can go screw themselves. No wonder Simon quit.
  • freddy on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:14…
    "we've decided that this was not the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC"

    This certainly puts a damper on the rumours regarding MI5.
  • Gabez on 03 Mar, 2004, 15:30…
    Jeeze, yeah. No doubt it will be announced, trailers will be made, screenshots produced and then cancelled to make way for another Star Wars game.
  • jp-30 on 03 Mar, 2004, 20:02…
    They should save some time & money and announce and cancel Monkey5 all in the one press release.